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My mate fail his yachtmaster
Billy Blogs
Posted: Friday, May 4, 2012 8:26 PM
Joined: 30/04/2012
Posts: 11


So my mate Simmo has been in yachting for a cuople of years now and he told me the Yachtmatser Offshroe is pretty rough. He’s bombed more than 3 times, spent a heap of cash and decided to give up for now and give it a crack later in the yaer. Being the sharp bloke he is I’m thinking the saeschools need to do better, especially when everything costs mega bucks. The tickets people need and how much they cost does not add up if youask me, hows a joker like me going to get a start? Seems like a cool job to have but, from were I sit is also seems like a rich kids game, cause who’s got the bucks to do all these tickets, fly overseas and chase down a job. He rekons his old Captain liked hime but had to chase him off cause he failed too many times and needed guys with tickets cause the boat had charters, sound stupid whjen a guys doing it all and has to go cause a piece of paper is more important that him????


Anonymous
Posted: Friday, May 4, 2012 10:48 PM
Are you for real? The "guy" - might have been you - has failed Yachtmasters 3 times? and you think that "bit of paper" is less important than him??  Fly overseas, chase down jobs, rich kids gig... seriously? This is a crazy post.

The first thing I'd be asking for would be feedback on YM assesment and why did you/sorry he fail?
Suck it up and address the gaps.

Mike
Posted: Saturday, May 5, 2012 7:15 AM
Joined: 15/11/2010
Posts: 37


Post deleted for violating forum guidelines.
Jonathan
Posted: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 7:45 PM
Joined: 06/06/2008
Posts: 4


Nice wind up Billy !!! April Fools just passed tho.

Anonymous
Posted: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:44 AM

A little gentle advice... Change your photo if you want the slightest chance of working successfully in the industry or any other for that matter. If Simmo can't pass the exams it's probably not an evil money making plot by the nasty nasty school. And finally when you are OS learn when to moderate your idiomatic English.
Ooo roo cobber.


Anonymous
Posted: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:26 AM
I can't add much to what has already been said. I can tell you however that I passed my YM on the first run. Not showing off, I was pretty bad actually but they still passed me. In a conversation I had with the instructor, he said that the YM has become an entry level ticket so they don't sweat it and try to help as many students as possible pass. So my constructive advice would be to go with one of the big schools like IYT or MPT. There is definitely no scam going on there. Oh yeah, try and study too.
Azza
Posted: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:28 AM
Joined: 02/01/2010
Posts: 9


Im right in the middle of doing my YM offshore and master 5 as we spk in sunny queensland. Im hoping they go easy on me!! Ive been studying non stop, so much info to take in, in so little time!! Boat stability exam on friday!! Awesome!
Linda @ Aigua Sea School
Posted: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:00 PM
Joined: 03/06/2011
Posts: 9


OK, so I write to this post as the Principal of an RYA Training Centre in Palma de Mallorca. My school specialises in Yachtmaster training and we have a high success rate. First of all, the Yachtmaster examination is run by an independent examiner, not the school. Each candidate has to prove their seamanship skills, navigation expertise and crew command in a short period of time. You have to be the best that you can be during this time. Secondly, did your 'friend' meet the recommended requirements of sea time, skipper experience, tidal miles experience, night hours etc before applyinf for Yachtmaster? We get a lot of people who come to the school needing the Yachtmaster ticket. Thousands of sea miles under their belts but when asked if they've ever parked a boat, the answer is no. When asked if they've skippered a vessel for a 60-mile passage, the answer is no. How can these candidates expect to achieve the Yachtmaster title, which, by the way, is a qualification allowing you to be the Master of Yachts up to 200grt, responsible for all crew and passengers in all weathers, up to 150 nautical miles from safe haven, if they've never taken command before? At my school, we always support the candidates who fail ... usually at no cost, apart from the exam fees. If theory is lacking we invite them to free-of-charge theory workshops; if its' practical ability we work with them onboard, usually at a much reduced pro-rata rate, to polish any weak points. But then, we talk openly with our yachtmaster candidates and tell them if we dont think they'll make it. Honest and open de-briefs each day of training. If your 'friend' has failed three times, the exam reports need to be read to find out why, only then can these subjects be addressed. There's always a good reason why ... you just need to find it.
Rusty Wrench
Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:36 AM
Joined: 21/09/2010
Posts: 207


Billy, not sure if you have the correct number of corks suspended at the regulation length from your hat brim as per IMO regulations....wife beater red shirt looks good!

 

However, proud Australian national dress notwithstanding, it seems your message may be better understood by all if constructed in proper gramatical english rather than conversational Australian.


Anonymous
Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:11 PM
I crewed on sail boats twice during YM exams as friends were actually doing the exam, both passed also, but during those 2 exams I saw guys go the wrong side of cardinal marks and run aground and still pass, also another guy crash the boat so hard into the jetty that a crew member fell over the side onto the jetty and still pass also... so if you are failing 3 times then we have a problem.. as the Director from the school said, you need the background experience to pass any exam, especially a practical exam, and sitting at anchor or stern to won't get u there, nor does not even being on the bridge when under way... bottom line is that the YM is a recreational ticket that the yachting industry jumped on a few years ago and made it so that you can commercially endorse it... The RYA system of training is a voluntary system, that recommends you do training, especially if you are sailing around the world... those that do do the courses REALLY want to do it, not do it because superyacht captains want them to have the ticket...
PeteD
Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013 7:18 AM
Joined: 04/02/2013
Posts: 1


My advice to your friend if he has failed 3 times is to go out and gain more experience before trying to sit the exam again, It would also be advisable to get off of the larger yachts and actually learn to sail on mid size between 35ft to 75ft. There are plenty of yacht deliveries over the summer period in the med just perfect for mile & experience building. Have a look at www.yachtcrewdirect.com or www.crewfile.com 

Just my 10 cents worth! wink 


Anonymous
Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013 4:25 PM
Surely this is a joke but if not my advice to your and your friend is stick to something less hazardous. It will save you both a lot of pain and some poor captain a lot of paperwork on the accident reports.