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The Captain's CV
AllyJ
Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:17 AM
Joined: 21/03/2009
Posts: 19


Captains, are you proud of your accomplishments and your leadership abilities? Could you, - as the person responsible for the lives on board your vessel - get used to presenting your CV to prospective crew as a matter of course? Can crew being interviewed feel okay about asking to see the captain's CV without being thought of as pushy? A xoxoxo
simongb-N2
Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:43 PM
Joined: 21/06/2008
Posts: 17


I just found this post. What a GREAT question, shame there are no replies yet.

My thought is that a Captain should feel proud of his/her CV and more than happy to show a deckhand (they were going to offer a job to) , their CV, or a the least let them know their professional past. (Perfect time to get the real you out there, not the you others have put together from gossip.)

I may be missing something but I can think of no reason why they would not want to show a person who would be looking out for your life what experience you had, and how you got it.

Yes this request may be unusual and I wish I had thought of it back in the day, but I think in this ever flattening world, with transparency becoming more and more expected in the business world, it is a great question for crew in an interview.

Put in a way such as:

Perspective crew to Captain

"If you were to offer me this position, I wonder if you would mind me asking to read your CV.  I am into this industry to grow and work up through the ranks and it would offer me great understanding of my new Captain if I could read about how you got to your position. I understand this may be a strange request and I would not expect you to offer me this if you felt I was not suitable for your vacancy, but it would be an honor to know and understand a bit more of the professional side of you."

I think you have to be confident in asking this, it should come from a ( genuine ),  interest in how to grow and looking to gain inspiration and innovation from this Captain, not not because you heard it was a good idea.

If you don't know why you would ask for this, don't.

I hope we can read some thoughts from Captains working now ?


le-capitaine
Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:04 PM
Joined: 27/01/2009
Posts: 15


I agree - any prospective employee should be able to 'see' the person whose hands that applicant is about to put his safety and, perhaps, his life. And, I would like to think that a captain (and prospective employer) would be happy to oblige.
Anonymous
Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:56 PM
If the management company, owner and insurance company has seen it why should I show the chef and deckhand ? In most cases they won't know what they are reading anyway. If you feel safe great, if you don't....get off. If it really bothers you, go for a beer with him/her and ask about their past boats and adventures.
Anonymous
Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:07 PM
In addition to the last poster, why should I have to justify myself to a junior employee? That doesn't happen in any business anywhere. Surely it is up to the interviewee to do his/her research, use some judgement, take some responsibility and generally harden the f**k up.
Anonymous
Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2011 4:51 PM
I can't see too many people agreeing with this, but how many times have you got on a yacht only to find out later that the captain has some serious skeletons in the closet?  It would be nice to know if there was a reputation there either good or bad.  I would love to know if he's been fired repeatedly, just as much as he/she is going to do a background check on me! 

Or how about a background check on a prospective  boss (captain)'s ability to retain crew??  Maybe that would be more relevant and telling...and not too personal as to upset someone who doesn't feel as though the working relationship is a two way street?  If a yacht has high crew turnover, then you know something is happening, if the retention is good, then it tells you that it's a much better situation.

An Owner
Posted: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:07 PM
Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 53


I read this question and cannot help but think the OP is being intentionally provocative or is some sort of international socialist/union activist, with an end game agenda in mind. In either case it borders on absurd. She asks the question, "Can crew being interviewed feel okay about asking to see the captain's CV without being thought of as pushy?"

I can assure you that you would not be thought of by me as pushy. Still unemployed, yes. Not very bright, most definitely but not pushy. My thought process would never get that far as I would be far to busy personally escorting you from my boat while thanking you for your straight forward disrespect for the authority of the position. Having said this however is just a hypothetical as there is almost no chance that I would be present at the time a prospective employee was interviewing. On the rare occasions that we do hire new crew my Captain would not introduce them to me unless she had already decided to hire the individual. I can assure you that she would never hire someone who questioned her abilities either before, or after being hired. Such an act of insubordination is grounds for termination, no discussion, end of subject.

I can assure you that my Captain has undergone many times the scrutiny that most of you could ever imagine and as long as she satisfies her licenses and certifications, leads by example and maintains the safety and security of the boat and all aboard, that is all you are entitled to know. As time goes by, all aboard will know her as well as family, but you being the wise ass with demands that the Captain meet your expectations will still find yourself unemployed and I hope, blissfully clueless.  

Anonymous
Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:19 AM
“An Owner” always refreshing when you post.
Once
Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:04 AM
Joined: 27/08/2011
Posts: 7


To "owner"
 "owner" of  what, exactly, and under what circumstances?   Post your own credentials [comment removed for violating forum guidelines].

To Ally
Keep asking sensible questions.  Not everyone on this website is a puffed up fool.

SBC
Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:30 PM
Joined: 14/10/2008
Posts: 33


I wonder why , in today's world, anyone in a managerial position should be automatically respected without proving himself, even to juniour staff? I think the question is very valid, and would certainly have no qualms showing my CV to anyone. It is hardly a secret document anyway. In yachting, one can be put in a position of great responsibility with little or no training or experience in dealing with personal matters. On the other hand, a serious contender would already have checked out the yacht, her captain and reputation on the internet, and by asking around and thus be properly prepared for the interview.
Henning
Posted: Thursday, December 1, 2011 12:45 PM
Joined: 01/06/2008
Posts: 1049


I don't personally see a problem with asking especially in this side of the business where anyone with a few thousand dollars and minimal experience can be 'captain', you gotta trust your your life to them, and there are plenty of fools running boats. I usually send mine to any serious prospective hires during the initial contact as well as having my info publicly available.

sean
Posted: Thursday, December 1, 2011 3:50 PM
Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 87


This is not only a great question question,  but it seems to have brought the two industry personality types out in this forum....i.e..."Anonymous " and "Once".  From what i see above there are many of you who really feel they have no responsibility to to show your credentials for whatever reason...(most likely, ego).  If you do posees them, then its no skin off your nose to put the confidence of your vast experience on paper and present it to crew...and (this may blow you minds a little) they just might respect you a bit more.

I have been in this industry 12 years and have no problem showing my resume and sharing my experience with any crew as i would likewise like to hear theirs.


John Doe
Posted: Thursday, December 1, 2011 4:39 PM
Joined: 13/10/2008
Posts: 68


This might sound a little old school, but I would probably find it disrespectful and possibly a pre-cursor for a pattern of insubordination from this person. If the prospective crew member followed that up with questions about internet speed and daily beer allowance they would definitely be shown the dock. If the person was very promising and had a lot to offer, iI might oblige the request. Hard to say how you would respond until the moment arrives. Someone might cleverly slip it in and make you feel like you want to show them your CV. This too would set off alarms in my head as to how they might be manipulative and cause further problems to the harmony of the crew down the road when the lustre of a new boat wears off. I know I sound wishy washy but when dealing with people things are sometimes not what they seem. There are always a lot of variables and situations need to be evaluated on a situational basis. I guess a better question for me would be " would you show every crew member who asked to see your CV ?" and my answer would be no, definitely not.
 
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