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shumli
Posted: Friday, August 20, 2010 6:14 PM
Joined: 20/08/2010
Posts: 4


It has occurred to me that there are certain boats and or captains who would rather hire visually pleasing females than those who have experience and are able to "get the job done right". Its seems to be happening more lately, with this in mind, I totally agree and I am sure most owners like to be surround by beauty as do I.
Anonymous
Posted: Friday, August 20, 2010 6:52 PM
Very sad ... I work with a guy just like you shumli.

rodsteel
Posted: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:19 PM
Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 277


-- and here I thought the responsible parties were Darwin and Hollywood  - Rod
Septic tank
Posted: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:47 PM
Joined: 02/11/2009
Posts: 79


If you go to any large city in the world you will find a disproportionate number of attractive women, because that's where the opportunities (money and jobs) exist. Let’s cut the crapp hot women know what their worth and people inside and outside yachting employ people specifically because they are pleasant to look at. Attractive women can be intelligent and posses a strong work ethic and do take full advantage of their social status, even the dumb ones. Tall good looking men become Captains more often than not so why not complain about that too?
Anonymous
Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:10 AM
Septic tank wrote:
"Tall good looking men become Captains more often than not ..."

That's a stretch! Do you work in the same industry as the rest of us?

Anonymous
Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:47 AM
But what about the People Who has the potential to do the job and can't get hired, i think it is unfair to the rest of the hard working yachties.Some ladies only get hired because of a nice pair of boobs and a nice ass but do they have the skills and knowledge of the ocean when something happen ?.
Anonymous
Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:06 AM
Welcome to the real yachting world Shumll!! I remember employing a very pretty girl from the owners favorite bar in New York who ended up posing on the aft deck in her dressing gown and head-towel whilst we docked in St Tropez and when the owner was told she just laughed! But, of course, the last laugh was on us, when they arrived back from a night out clubbing with 20 "unexpected" guests at 3am and this girl had gone to bed and was needed urgently and she then took 45mins to do her hair and makeup. She was of course fired the next morning. Just be patient and wait, your time will come!!!
shumli
Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:42 AM
Joined: 20/08/2010
Posts: 4


The most interesting thing that comes to mind in this exclusive world of super yachts is the people who we work for. As they are the richest people in the world, I believe they deserve the best and there for have the best looking people in the world working for them. Its a superficial world we live in and I enjoy every moment of it, beautiful people can do amazing things...
junior
Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 3:11 PM
Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 1026


I don't think the owners or guests could give a dam, they just need the job done. All the insecurity found in the yachting industry comes from within....Crew agents, captains and right on down the list. Chief Stewardess's must be the most insecure and critical of them all. This week I have a group of guests who are joining us for the 16th year, plus the owner . Last nights topic of dinner conversation was a 1998 Canadian cruise they did with us and specifically the wonderful stewardess we had for the trip. I hired this stewardess sight unseen, over the phone , on a " She's great, youre gonna love her " recommendation, in Newport RI. When she showed up behind the boat in Newport ... she was five foot tall and five foot in diameter. Oh My !!! Not the prettiest girl, but she proved to be one of the most effective, intuitive , humorous, sharp witted, lovable like a fluffy teddy bear stewardess's Ive ever hired. The guests loved her and continue to ask about her to this day
Henning
Posted: Sunday, August 22, 2010 3:45 AM
Joined: 01/06/2008
Posts: 1053


Why does it always seem a presupposition in these types of threads that beautiful girls are incompetent  and don't "get the job done right"? In my experience, looks has absolutely no correlation to ability. One of the most incompetent hands I've ever had was both fat and ugly.

junior
Posted: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:11 PM
Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 1026


Its not a presupposition, its an observation from 30 years of doing this. Plain lookers always have to work harder to achieve their goals and find the going rough around superyachts. Its particularly true with girls. I see it every year during the "Resume Haul " season. I have resumes in my top drawer from very pretty girls holding qualifications like... STCW95 Nail Technician, Beauty Consultant, part time model, cocktail waitress .... complete with full page head to toe, look'n like a snake with hips, swimsuit pictures . They are competing for a job on looks alone. Then I have resumes from plain Jane gap tooth girls, with mug shot pictures and college degrees , who spent the last few years working for the local police department as a trainee probation officer supervising juvenile delinquents. Yachting is a rather simple job so perhaps the good looker will do...and also complement your ego, make you popular with mates , discipline the engineers fingernails or coax you into a more appropriate Donald Trumpksi hairdoo. My experience only anticipates toe nail paint spilled on the new carpets, mental lapses and weeks of me sitting in the tender waiting for the bimbo to finish making up and gelling down before escorting her on the treacherous, could be spiders out there, morning bread run. The wash'n wear , gap toothers , with real life employment experience around juvenile delinquents or what not, work out best. Plain Janes don't take fright easily, can add numbers without the assistance of a passersby, are immune to headaches on the job, show up on time , competently deal with troublesome rich and famous trust fund children, are able to live in the same cabin with an Australian, work hard and will most likely survive the seasonal , work till you drop, blitzkrieg .
Haya
Posted: Sunday, August 22, 2010 6:28 PM
Joined: 02/04/2010
Posts: 19


junior wrote:
"...before escorting her on the treacherous, could be spiders out there, morning bread run."

hehehehe..."could be spiders out there"...!!!!   :D   Thanks for this gem!   :D

Henning
Posted: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:59 AM
Joined: 01/06/2008
Posts: 1053


junior wrote "Its not a presupposition, its an observation from 30 years of doing this." Ahhh, I see, well, that's not really unexpected on a low pay bag o'rags sailboat program that only works part of the year. You get the "either or" candidates. The good looking AND fully qualified/capable don't have to stoop to that. You WILL find them working where the pay is higher and the work steadier.
junior
Posted: Monday, August 23, 2010 9:10 AM
Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 1026


Gee, never thought of that. Guess this is why Im always sailing with odd ball stewardess's who have names like Star, Fingers ( only 9 of em') , Stewburner, Lurch ( don't challenge her to an arm wrestling competition ), WeeBee, or the trusty Bollard ( wide transom, big pair of Johnsons ) . Guess all the good stuff goes stink, latches onto the dock in Port Vauban , plugs the vacuum cleaner in full time, then dreams of the day when their nightmare is all over.
dabbott
Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:34 PM
Joined: 27/08/2008
Posts: 5


The short answer is - yes.

And it's not just the Captain that has a preference. I've worked with owners who were very specific about the "qualifications" they considered desirable or mandatory for crew.

Laura Cherington
Posted: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:44 AM
Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2


Isn't the old adage about girls who aren't that good looking have to do more sexually? Let's face it, it doesn't apply to men in exactly the same fashion, especially since in this industry it's men (captains, owners) who have the say in hiring. On another note, I've worked with and seen plenty of women who could put a little makeup on or "do" something with their hair. Not that this doesn't totally apply to the menfolk. Some people are getting a little sloppy out there, let's face it. And yes, it's a physical job, so you should look fit enough to do the business.
Anonymous
Posted: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:29 AM
"Now captain. I want you to crew my yacht with the most qualified people you can find for the salary we are offering. However, when interviewing, I want you to give preference to the most butt-ugly, horrendous women you can find. Let's aim for anchor tattoos on the forearms, visible sores, yellow or missing teeth, and a tired haggard look on the face. Totally out of shape is preferred, not mandatory, but a disfigurement would be a plus. And not the kind of problem that one can politely ignore. I want something that will make our guests go, "damn, WTF is that?" When I am finally able to take a break from running my multi-billion dollar corporation, I want to spend some quality relaxation time in the most beautiful locations on earth with the most disgusting people available (that are not related to me). When we come into the marina, I don't want to hear comments about how great the yacht looks. I want them to remember our ugly crew. Did you see that new 50m on the perimeter? Yeah, but did you see the crew (vomit burp)? I no longer want to hear my poker buddies compliment me on the new stew with blonde hair and perky boobs that always point north. I want them ugly and the worst you can find. Because if there's anything worth working so hard for in maintaining my wealth, it's spending my leisure time surrounded by skanks. Make it happen." What world do you people live in?
Anonymous
Posted: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:24 PM
Get real ! "Tall good looking men become Captains more often than not" That is not true. Captain on my boat is only 165 cm and over 50 years old. And if you think that hight has anything to do with ability; He is not very professional and not a good leader. I think the owner hired him so he has someone to bully around. I'm not sure about the looks though.
Daves714
Posted: Saturday, December 4, 2010 9:37 AM
Joined: 22/10/2010
Posts: 12


Maybe we should start making Hollywood movies stop this practice also. In James Bond films, we will now have an overweight lady co-star with a girdle and belly tires above and below because she is a great actress. Maybe also a wart on the nose? Why not?
maximum
Posted: Monday, December 6, 2010 6:02 PM
Joined: 14/10/2008
Posts: 1


Try being black in yachting ,then you will cry
Anonymous
Posted: Monday, December 6, 2010 6:25 PM
Very well put! Elaborate and send an article to Dock walk, we will all think twice about what industry we are getting in. Being well put together to work in a high end industry should be held with highest regards.
Anonymous
Posted: Tuesday, December 7, 2010 12:01 AM
I totally disagree. Five 50M+ yachts in 9 years and I will show you my Crew pictures. The people I have worked with are extremely varied in appearance. All shapes, sizes and nationalities. Looks don't get jobs, but they might get you an interview if you don't have three eyes, a tattoo over your whole face or no lips or nose. Sorry some of you are experiencing this, but perhaps you are looking to blame someone for your not getting a job. Remember, this is an extremely difficult time in yachting. We asked an agency for a stew and got 246 CV's ; All people in the area with experience looking for work......Not an easy time to break in.
Anonymous
Posted: Tuesday, December 7, 2010 12:03 AM
Yeah, try working for a private yacht yacht where the Husband has had an affair. You can bet the wife only hires ugly chicks......
Anonymous
Posted: Wednesday, December 8, 2010 3:46 PM
yeah i just hired a chef who turns out to be very beautiful , the owner (older guy has a 20 something young girlfriend and she felt insecure and thought the chef was too pretty to be hired regardless of her culinary background ...so yes looks matter in the yachting industry alot!
faybion
Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 5:34 PM
Joined: 18/11/2008
Posts: 66


You can be nice looking and get the job done right! OR YOU CAN BE UGLY AND GET THE JOB WRONG?
Anonymous
Posted: Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:31 PM
This is all true for both sexes I joined a 100m yacht two years ago and the Captain said photo on CV was bit outdated, I suggest you lose 20lbs. This did me a favour. This industry will never change. Picking up a dockwalker you want a person with a stunning personality over everything else.
 
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