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The Crew Confessor Speaks - About Prostitutes on Board And Other Things
Crew Confessor
Posted: Friday, April 30, 2010 11:00 AM
Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 94


Hello Possums!

I expect you are all thick into preparations for the upcoming summer season.  I hope you have all found great and exciting jobs, and if not you soon will.  It looks like things are picking up and the wealthy are beginning to loosen the purse strings, thank goodness because as the uber wealth goes, so do us all.  The difference being that for us it is the difference between eating or not, and for them it is the difference between Cristal and Mumms.  Brighter days ahead it appears, and this means more jobs and opportunities for all of us in the yachting industry.  Knock on wood.  Can all of us try to remember in future not to blow that hard won tip money on overpriced cocktails and crazy meals ashore?  Lets try and save money and get creative about letting off steam in ways that will be less expensive.  Don't act like the over privileged and very rich that you are often surrounded by in yachting, you cannot keep up and its a waste of time and money. 

Last month a poster wrote in about having to serve a prostitute on the yacht she was working on.  The poster  felt insulted and that it was beneath her to be subservient to a prostitute.  Few things I have read here have shocked me more and not why you might think. 

First, how does she even know this woman is prostitute?  Did she witness the exchange of money for sex?  Does K even realize that prostitution is actually legal in many first world countries?  Beyond the simple transaction, lets look at many marriages, they are often more about dollars and cents than love and kisses. This is irrelevant however because it is NONE of her business if the woman is a prostitute or not. 

Dear precious K, do you really think that cleaning up after a woman you think is a prostitute is more demeaning than doing it for someone else?  Really?!!  Need I remind you that the waste product expelled by the Queen of England is no different than that of anyone else, yours included? brown and smelly! It will still need a scrubbing in the toilet to remove any trace.  Working ladies I have known on yachts have been uniformly polite and very grateful for both the privilege of being a guest on a fine yacht, and for any special service or consideration afforded them, often much more so than the A listers (and often like to slip nice extra tips too).  Moral judgementalism has no place in the yacht crew ethos. 

Second, hello!  -- your job is to serve the guests of the owner of the yacht, not to make moral judgements about their occupations.  It's none of your business unless there are illegal activities going on that place you and the yacht or others in direct jeopardy.  Personally I'd prefer to serve a well mannered prostitute over a British Petroleum or Halliburton  hot shot, at least the former does honest work.

Thirdly, this industry (when did the proclivity for the term industry become fashionable?  we don't make anything!) is always going to have demanding, often eccentric (read sometimes insane) owners and others involved.  It just will.  You can talk about professionalism and seamanship all you like, but when it gets down to it, on the white boats you are MOSTLY the most well educated (and paid) servants in the world.  Everyone cleans!  If you can't hack it, figure out something else to do.

Treat your guests with respect and dignity, no matter who or what you "think" they are,  and they will likely return the favor.  Do not judge them.  Treat each guest on your yacht as if they are kings and queens.  If they are abusive and behave in ways that make them candidates for a bizarre reality show maintain your stoicism!  Sometimes the kookiest people are the best tippers of all, give everyone the best service you can.  The most rude people can often be the most generous. 

Have a great beginning to the season everyone!  Maintain your enthusiasm,  be safe, and save your money! 


Your Crew Confessor

Note:  In view of recent events I have replaced Goldman Sachs with British Petroleum and or Halliburton.  Say a prayer for the Gulf of Mexico everyone.

rodsteel
Posted: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:36 PM
Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 275


Dear Crew Confessor,

 

This comment is not quite on topic but given your contention that crew should not be judgemental, it is relevant.

 

The "cheap shot" at Goldman Sachs' employees is judgemental.

 

Goldman Sachs did not make the rules, Congress did! (Goldman Sachs was just taking advantage of them).

 

Congress' repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act removed the barrier between banking and trading operations. Congress thus opened up the ability to create CDO's, use CDS's to insure against loss and the trading (buying and selling) of these instruments all by different (but communicating) departments within the same financial institutions. In my opinion, with this repeal, Congress revived an old recipe for abuse and bubbles (Glass-Steagall was a result of the 1929 crash and was designed to prevent such abuse).

 

In addition, Goldman Sachs' customers were all "accredited investors" who are supposed to be sophisticated enough to do their own "due diligence" and not depend on the "sales prospectus's" for definitive information regarding financial products.

 

According to the information I have seen, at most, Goldman Sach's personnel were guilty of arrogance and devious "ommissions" rather than explicit "lying" (i.e., "fraud" as charged).

 

As an aside, you will notice however, that in all the "rhetoric" surrounding "Financial Reform" there is very little discussion about restoring Glass-Steagall (or even acknowledgement on the part of Congress that they were culpable in the creation of the "Financial Crisis" ).

 

Rod


An Owner
Posted: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:22 PM
Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 53


rodsteel wrote:

Dear Crew Confessor,

 

This comment is not quite on topic but given your contention that crew should not be judgemental, it is relevant.

 

The "cheap shot" at Goldman Sachs' employees is judgemental.

 

Goldman Sachs did not make the rules, Congress did! (Goldman Sachs was just taking advantage of them).

 





"If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed." — Mark Twain

I can still remember Bill Clinton parading Robert Rubin out to present the repeal as, "Financial REFORM" and thinking at the time, "This is not going to end well."

Don't blame the Crew Confessor for being poorly informed on the subject. It would take an effort to find the truth and who needs to do that when the wholly owned subsidiaries of the people who caused it will happily provide them with headlines pointing in another direction? 

Anonymous
Posted: Monday, May 3, 2010 6:36 AM
I'd say you're a bit off the mark attacking the Crew Confessor for being uninformed.  Just because the rules neglected to say you could not steal, did not mean it was the right thing to do.  At least that's what I was taught back in the dinosaur (literally) days, building the ark, and fighting for apples with uncle Adam.  What year is it?  So confused, beam me up mr. magic god.

Anonymous
Posted: Monday, May 3, 2010 7:44 AM
You guys seem to be lacking the same conscience as GS execs. Whilst short selling your own customers and betting on their investments to fail may be within the letter of the law, it is plainly wrong on every other level. Steal $50 and you go to prison, rob people of their life savings, house and pension and it isn't your fault the laws have loopholes. Jesus wept. So kudos to the CC for once.
An Owner
Posted: Monday, May 3, 2010 3:28 PM
Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 53


Anonymous wrote:
You guys seem to be lacking the same conscience as GS execs. Whilst short selling your own customers and betting on their investments to fail may be within the letter of the law, it is plainly wrong on every other level. Steal $50 and you go to prison, rob people of their life savings, house and pension and it isn't your fault the laws have loopholes. Jesus wept. So kudos to the CC for once.






Your take on the situation is a prime example of what I referred to originally. This is a grab for power and control of the entirety of the American economy. The situation   that you are regurgitating never happened. The truth is GS lost over 75 million dollars in the hedge in question. They played both sides of the vehicle which is what a hedge is. No one stole anything, no one got robbed of the life savings and no one played a loop hole. These are institutional investors, not retail individuals who could not participate in them even if they wanted too. You're being led by the nose to assist unscrupulous people in deflecting the attention from a situation that they themselves caused.

BTW, Did you notice that their "financial reform" bill doesn't even address the primary cause of the housing market bubble and subsequent crash, but it does contain a clause that institutionalizes bailouts for failed companies! So is this, "Financial Reform" or seizing control? If financial reform were really the goal, would you let the primary benefactor for the cause of the problem (Chris Dodd) write the bill or would you simply re-institute the protections that you repealed in the beginning? Use your head.

Perhaps we would all be better served if you would investigate exactly how these same people attempting to paint you a picture of a private sector bogeyman, have managed to insure that the dividends millions of Americans now depend on for their retirement are suddenly going to have their taxes increased from 15 to over 40 percent in 2013? Not hearing much at all about mom and dad's, and grandma and grandpa's life savings being wiped out by the loving and caring, "We're not really socialists and Marxists, democrats"

Look beyond the surface, consider the timing and the ramifications whenever a politician or their surrogate news agencies speak. Cherry picking a sound bite and a line out of an email do not a crime make.

rodsteel
Posted: Monday, May 3, 2010 3:52 PM
Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 275


Crew Confessor wrote:
Hello Possums!

...Note:  In view of recent events I have replaced Goldman Sachs with British Petroleum and or Halliburton.  Say a prayer for the Gulf of Mexico everyone.


- Two more fiascos that could be laid at the feet of Congress and the Executive Branch (now if you had originally replaced Goldman with "some members of Congress or previous Executive Branches" I would not be able to accuse you of being judgemental ).

 

Rod

 


Anonymous
Posted: Monday, May 3, 2010 4:40 PM
How much was the bail out again? To listen to "An Owner", it never happened! Yawn.
Anonymous
Posted: Monday, May 3, 2010 10:39 PM
Lets face it, compared to a lot of the politicians and corporate fat cats out there, most prostitutes come out pretty far ahead on the morality/honor scale.
Marty
Posted: Tuesday, May 4, 2010 10:47 PM
Joined: 15/08/2009
Posts: 8


Crew Confessor.
Well put.

Septic tank
Posted: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 4:10 PM
Joined: 02/11/2009
Posts: 79


Auspicious treatment of guest and owners is all part of the yachting industries "YES PHILOSOPHY". First world societies are in decline. Everything you experience today is direct outcome the ever widening moral boundaries breached by world leaders, aristocrats and social role models. The world’s elite do as wish and everyone else is left to do as they are told. We watch reality TV because it’s cheaper to make shows about freaks than it is to write and produce sitcoms, we borrow money for thing we can never own, we drive around in cars than consume finite resources and destroy environment, we live for today and think little about tomorrow because we live in virtual reality and are fascinated by those who define what the "American Dream Is". Twitter, MySpace, Face book, Skype, Google, 3G networks and I-phones fill our minds with subliminal messages and precondition each of us to spend more, have more and ignore our social responsibilities. Information does not make us more intelligent, it confounds us and prompts people to elude actuality numbing our minds to the future, the past and today. We over eat and watch the world’s poorest nations starve, die and bastardize each other and their lands. Blood diamonds, cocaine, sex slaves, pedophilia, rape, murder are all sound bites our society digests and regurgitates whilst consuming un-nutritional TV dinners. If mankind took the time to review its selfish, greedy and jealous ways we would pull our troops out of the resource wealthy nations we wish to control and apply our resources to the nations which truly deserve social, economic, agricultural and medical assistance. To say that prostitution is legal in many countries and to state most marriages are more about money then hugs and kisses exemplifies precisely why innocent minds become corrupted. My nine month old daughter smiles and giggles because her mind is clear and free of the social disease we foster in the USA. Crew confessor your either a chauvinist male or a frustrated gold digger that flounders between the lips of a sugar daddy and your purse.
Anonymous
Posted: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 8:16 PM

  I read somewhere in this Forum about that Capt who put the Ladies in Fuel expenses and the clients were asking " But... we didn't sailled that much"""""   Sorry but it's Hilariuos 

   Sometimes I feel like a whore myself, and the most dificult part is to get a good pay !!!!

   This last post of septic tank made me remind    I guess Renton in " Trainspotting"

Get a hair cut, get a job, on n on!

cheers 


Anonymous
Posted: Thursday, May 6, 2010 3:39 AM
To an Owner, are we talking morality or law, I am not sure of US law but I do know that in british law an agent owes his duty only to his principal (the person who pays his commission) but a broker owes a duty of fairness to both the seller & the buyer. When a "broker" sells a client a security that he regards as a "piece of crap" without informing his client of his opinion that is dishonest regardless of legality or the supposed sophistication of the client, if we can't trust a broker to inform us ( & what is an investment bank ?) then what purpose do they serve?
           This is a long way from the silly girl who felt herself above serving a supposed  prostitute! but who is more or less righteous ?, a prostitute or a pillar of the community like Bernie Madoff.

 
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